Wednesday, 10 September 2025

Reviewing New Recruits (2): Infantry, part 1

 Regular readers will know that I have recently acquired a nice lot of vintage Minifigs 25mm 7YW/AWI figures, whose former owners were members of the Whitehall Warlords club. I've been going through them ( there are twelve boxes full!),  making notes and taking 'mugshots' of each unit.   So far I've gone through seven boxes of infantry  ( I showed some of the cavalry in a previous post );  and I'll give a quick run-through of the first four boxes here. I am reasonably confident of what is being represented in most cases, though there are a few mystery men -  I'd welcome any opinions on what they might be! 

Box 1 was sold as  Bavarians:  there are two 'regiments'  ( that's what I'm calling them, at least ), one with red facings, the other yellow facings,  each of two battalions. Each battalion has a 'company' each of what look like Grenadiers and 'Light Bobs'  -  I have not checked on when that battalion organisation might have been introduced, but feel it might be later than 7YW.  

They have fictionalised French-style flags, so I suspect these are leaning towards an 'Imagi-nation' setup. But they are nice, and there's some mounted officers and a couple of regimental  gun crews too, all potentially useful. 

Here's the 'red' regiment with officer and gun crew.. 


  .. and the 'yellow' regiment in close-up 

 

Box 2: described as 'French and Swiss' :  

First a battalion of (judging from the flag) probably Picardie regiment :

( I have my own Regiment Picardie from Garrison figures, so I will probably change the flag on these to another unit with similar facing colours ).

also a  battalion of  'Santorge' regiment :


 ..and two battlaions 'Vaubecourt' regiment, with their Colonel : 

 and some  'Swiss' : I have not delved into what regiment they might be representing, and they don't have flags, which can be the easy way to identify them! Need to look into them a bit more.. 


 Box 3 and it all gets a bit more esoteric :  AWI  Americans and Native Americans! 

The American  units are conveniently labelled under the bases, so I know what they are intended to be,  and we'll start with '3rd New York' :

 

  and '1st Continental'  :


 then '3rd Pennsilvania' 

and the rather interesting-looking 'Glovers Marblehead' with splendid snake 'Don't Tread On Me' standard! 


  various riflemen/militia,  

 

and an assortment of drummers on a single base - a sort of amalgamated band? 
 


A very minor point, but that last one is a good example of some pretty unusual basing that has been used for some units - they are on an aluminium bases, which have clearly been specially cut by someone with access to fairly serious machinery! Maybe the former owner knew someone with a metalwork shop.. Serious 'old school' basing, anyway, and as the chap selling them said, the only problem is that they can't be used with magnetic paper in storage boxes!  You'll notice there are several basing styles going on here, because there were several different owners/painters involved. There are a few rather ragged cardboard bases that will need replacing, but  I'm inclined to keep them as they are as far as possible, partly because re-basing is just tedious, and partly to reflect the history and 'heritage' of the figures - which are probably 30 or even 40 years old, some perhaps even older. I think the ones on Aluminium bases may be hard to remove, anyway!  

Next the Native Americans, in what look to be three distinct 'Warbands', if that's appropriate. The first one is led by a British officer and features a few red coats, so I think we can surmise  their allegiance:  


 

 and the third is a real curiosity, with those red facemasks! 


 I'd be quite interested if anyone can suggest what tribe or faction these might be representing... 

 

We'll finish with Box number 4 : oodles more French, and a lone Hungarian unit.  the French are labelled with their former owners' designations, so easy to identify. Starting with Royal Italien Infanterie: 


 Touraine Infanterie: 


 Soissonais:

and Bourbonais:


 ..and finally the wild card,  'Hungarian Fusiliers'  

That's enough for now, I think! Plenty more boxes to come, though - I am still working through them, identifiying units and taking pictures.  I have clearly got the makings of a decent French army, to start with!  I'm quite pleased with that, as I was just starting to try to add a French contingent to my collection. I'm going to need to add some cavalry for them - I have some dragoons awaiting painting, and I will look into acquiring some more of the basic types. 

The Americans and Native Americans  are a completely new direction for me, but I'm quite pleased to have them - topical too, with the 250th anniversary upon us. I have a copy of 'Rebels and Patriots', and I can see some games of that being possible ( no British yet, but watch this space - or the red-coated Swiss might stand in!).

Bavarians and Hungarians interesting too - the former can be a small allied contingent, traditionally to the French, but Imaginary campaigns can allow all sorts of 'what-if' alliances. And the Hungarian unit is a nice addition to my existing Austrians, whose infantry units  are currently all 'German'.  

More to come - as a teaser, I can say Box no.5 is full of Russians! I will continue sorting through them  and show more pictures in future posts. I am rather enjoying the process of all this -  is it  a rather extended example of Bob Cordery's 'sorting the button box'?   I also need to plan a campaign, clearly..!  So, more to come in the next post or two, watch this space. Meanwhile keep well, everyone.   

 

17 comments:

  1. This is a splendid collection of really nice figures David. They're crying out for a battle!

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    1. Thanks MJT, I am very pleased with these! A battle will follow in good time, and preferably quite a big battle!

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  2. Your cup runneth over David! The options are endless. Looking forward to more unveiling.
    Regarding the Bavarian unit organisation, you are right about it not being SYW. Kronoskaf SYW section has a battalion of 5 fusilier companies and 1 grenadier company. https://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=Bavarian_Line_Infantry_Organisation
    Chris/Nundanket

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    1. Thanks Chris, indeed loads of possibilities here.. Thanks for confirming that about the Bavarians - and indeed Kronoskaf has been very useful for this exercise. I think those units will be re-organised somewhat, for a more 'SYW' look.

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  3. A wonderful collection of figures and units there David:)! Certainly enough to get some games in straight away, if you have some artillery to go with them too. Looking forward to more reveals in due course.

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    1. Thanks Steve, yes they are really good, glad to have them. Gaming will follow - actually the challenge will be to set up a bigger table and terrain, cloth etc! Work in progress..

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    2. and I'm glad to say, was already well stocked with artillery, and this collection adds some more to that!

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  4. I can’t help with the identification side of things, but still lovely to see your parade.

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    1. Thanks Norm, glad you are enjoying them! For identification, the Kronoskaf SYW website is a fantastic resource - plus there are doubtless many experts in the blogosphere..

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  5. David,
    You have already had an answer on the incorporation of light companies. It may have been America or more likely a French innovation. It seems the French started creating companies of light infantry and indeed experimenting with whole line battalions acting as skirmishers.
    It was towards the end of the SYW and didn't spread widely until after it.
    Perhaps the Bavarian LI can become a Legion or Freikorps?
    The Indians / Native Americans tended to dress and apply war paint very much on own whims - very unlikely everyone had the same war paint red face. Tribes may have favoured particular hairstyles but not to the extent early Minifigs portrayed them! ☺ Kronoskaf has a stab however.
    The Hungarians are in the post SYW Kasket.
    Sadly, Minifigs are not the most historically correct.
    I think I'd be inclined towards "semi- historical" or " factional" (as opposed to fictional, as in "faction" based on fact but not keeping to reality / historical course of events) armies rather than imaginary as they are based or trying to be historical. It means you can vary things to your own desire.
    Neil

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    1. Thanks Neil, all good points, and a good idea for the Bavarain 'light bobs' - there are enough to make a separate unit. Those red-faced/masked Indians may need a re-paint, and perhaps they should all be put into mixed units of the different poses and paint jobs, to diffuse the uniformity a bit.
      Indeed, looks like the Hungarians are from a later period altogether, they may just be 'retired'..
      I like your use of 'faction' : I've rather liked the Charles Grant system of using real regiments in imaginary armies, which seems to finesse things quite well. 'Soldier King' worked quite well for me, with 'real' armies in an imagniary territory. As you know I am not too worried about absolute historical correctness(!) and another interesting factor here is that the figures are largely from the Minifigs 'AWI' ranges even when depicting, for example, Prussians! I suspect that they may have been bought in bulk by the club members together, to perhaps get a discount? Or a planned AWI campaing drfited into SYW, perhaps, after the figures had been bought? (I may update the blog posts to give the Minifigs code numbers, where I can make them out - there may be some surprises!).
      The upshot is, I think absolute accuracy was left behind long ago, and I am just enjoying a lovely lot of nice old-school figures, which need to start marching across a table again sometime soon!

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  6. Splendid parade, David, and quite a handsome bunch of figures! You ARE set for some larger games. You really have a mix of periods here as others have pointed out. The Hungarians in casquet are more from the FRW period. The Bavarians are an odd lot with their organization and black webbing.

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    1. Thanks Jon, glad you liked the parade! Yes, certainly larger games can now be attempted - watch this space..
      The Hungarians do indeed seem to be 'odd ones out', and may be 'retired' one way or another. 'Bavarians' may have been an Imagi-nation, I suspect - and to complicate things I think they may be from the AWI range, not SYW! There are some more somewhat eccentric untis still to come..

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  7. Lovely post full of old school glory! I look forward to seeing more and the battles to come…
    Alan Tradgardland

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    1. Thanks Alan, glad you liked that! Yes, more to come, and battles will be fought, hopefully on a suitbaly grand scale..

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  8. Great collection, David.
    I would agree with Jonathan that the Hungarians look like they are from French Revolutionary Wars... but great mix. You're going to have some fun with all of them.

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    1. Thanks Richard, yes agree on the Hungarians.I think there are some interesting possibilites with this mix of figures plus my existing collection: and yes, fun indeed!

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